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Should We Forgive Michael Vick?

Many Douglasville residents were shocked when our NFL team's star quarterback was indicted and convicted on charges associated with dogfighting and animal cruelty. Three years later, is it time to forgive Vick?

 

Football season is (hopefully) just around the corner, and if you’re like me and countless other Douglasville residents, you are and have been a big Falcons fan for years. That’s our home-team and we cheer them on through the good and bad. Sadly, there has been a lot of bad over the last decade. Much of that bad has stemmed from the off-field antics of our former quarterback, Michael Vick. The latest in a long string of incidents was, of course, Vick’s federal conviction of countless activities associated with dogfighting and unlawfully killing and torturing dogs. He served 18 months in prison for his actions.  

Since then, Vick has been accepted back into the NFL and currently plays for the Philadelphia Eagles. Recently, Nike signed an undisclosed deal with Vick (after dropping him in 2007), with Nike spokesman Derek Kent telling CNBC, "We do not condone those actions, but we support the positive changes he has made to better himself off the field." Vick has also been named "Subway Sportsman of the Year" by the BET Network. His autobiography hit stores last week and a documentary about Vick is in the works with Bombo Sports & Entertainment. 

Vick is not the first or the last person to engage in dogfighting, but he is, perhaps, the most public figure, and he has become the human face of that particular crime. He also served his punishment according to the law. Since then, he has been granting interviews to countless media organizations and working with the Humane Society of the United States to help reach out to inner city youth and speak out about why dogfighting is not something to get involved with. Whether he truly believes in his message now and had a change of heart or is simply following the orders of a stellar public relations team, only Vick knows for sure.

I do know far too many young people look up to Vick, and I hope with every fiber of my being that they will take his latest message to heart. I've also witnessed firsthand that far too many young people, even here in Douglasville, think dogfighting is okay and do not understand the harm it causes innocent animals or even that it is against the law.

As an avid football fan, animal lover and human being, I have my own thoughts on Vick’s newfound publicity that stem from his past off-the-field behavior (and not just the dogfighting), but instead of sharing my opinion, I want to know what others think. I decided to ask a few of Douglasville’s biggest animal advocates what they thought about Vick’s seemingly seamless comeback, and I received some surprisingly different answers. 

Jaime (last name withheld) the founder of BullyWag, a local organization that works to change the public’s opinion of Pit Bulls told me that Vick’s positive reemergence into society should be what we focus on now, “I don't personally know him, so I don't know if his apology/regret is genuine. I guess as long as he is doing positive things, he shouldn't be frowned upon, but I also hope that no one forgets about the dogs that he hurt & killed… I would hope that endorsing companies would keep an open mind while at the same time be cautious if looking for Vick to represent them.”

On the other hand, Martina Hemming, the Executive Director of the West Georgia SPCA does not forgive Vick’s actions and had some very strong words to say, “Some people and companies, like Nike, downplay Michael Vick's crimes by calling them 'a mistake' or giving the impression that dog fighting is a 'just a dog fight.’ The reality is that Michael Vick fully funded, organized and participated in multi-state dogfighting/gambling rings for several years until he was arrested. He bought and developed property (which includes rape cages and other cruel tools of dog fighters) for the express purpose of dogfighting. Vick sponsored dog fights on his property and he transported his dogs to fights in several states. The dogs that were fought were mauled, tortured and killed. They were all victims of animal cruelty.  Michael Vick not only 'fought' dogs, he personally executed dogs that were not good performers. Michael Vick executed at least eight of his dogs by hanging, drowning and electrocution. On top of all that, Michael Vick lied to the NFL Commissioner, he lied to the Atlanta Falcons owner, he failed drug tests, he defied court orders, and then he is named Subway's Sportsman of the Year by BET and gets a lucrative endorsement deal with Nike?”

Hemming believes that anyone who cares about animals should boycott companies such as Nike, Subway and BET, “While Michael Vick is seemingly saying and doing all the right things now that he is out of prison, it doesn't mean that he should be applauded for his new public revelation that dog fighting is criminal. That is something that most people already understand. It doesn't mean that we should forget the cruelty Michael Vick funded and organized or that we should forget his victims. Every time I see a Subway restaurant, a Nike emblem or a mention of BET, I can only see that they chose a person to represent them that was heavily vested in animal cruelty. I don't want to support that.” 

Hemming also asked that I give this important message to Douglasville residents:  “The most important thing you can do to fight back against the cruelty or dogfighting is to report it. If you want to remain anonymous, you can report it to the West Georgia SPCA at 770-272-3178. You can also report it to the Norred & Associates dogfighting hotline at 770-215-2250.” 

As I mentioned, Michael Vick’s story often hits close to home with Douglasville residents, because many of us are and have been Falcons fans for years, and Vick spent many years as the face of that organization. So, I’m curious as to what you guys think. Should we forgive and forget Vick’s actions since he has allegedly turned over a new leaf? Or do you feel like the NFL and companies like Nike are rewarding him for bad behavior and forgetting about the countless innocent lives he took? Or do you have a different opinion all together? 

Editor's note: Both dogs pictured with this article are available for adoption through the BullyWag organization (they are not associated with the Michael Vick case). Rebel is a six-year-old Pit Bull mix that has been neutered, is up-to-date on all vaccinations, microchipped and heartworm negative. He is about 65 pounds. According to Jaime, "He is a very gentle and loving dog and seems to be good around other dogs. He is just looking for a home to spend his remaining years in, being petted and spoiled.”  

Mazie was rescued from Coweta County Animal Control in March, 2010, and she is still looking for a home. She is also spayed, up-to-date on all vaccinations, microchipped and heartworm negative. Mazie should be an only pet in her new home. 

Both BullyWag and the West Georgia SPCA are great organizations if you want to learn more about dogfighting, the truth about Pit Bulls and animal cruelty.  

About this column: A weekly column about topics important to pet lovers.

yasmina

6:21 pm on Saturday, August 6, 2011

We will never forget what he did. Never. He is using the platform of supposed "reformism" to make more money for himself and his money grubbing wife. No money goes to the dogs. ALL of his salary should go to the dogs and the Humane Society of the United States is a JOKE. One dollar out of every 100 actually goes to help the dogs.... that is ONE PERCENT.... so the fact that they joined with this convicted felon, a member of the National Felons League doesn't surprise me.... Please, get this pychopath out of our faces.

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Lisa Ashley

6:53 pm on Saturday, August 6, 2011

None of his salary should go to HSUS! It was court ordered to go to Best Friends and not ONE dime has gone there!

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Selwyn Marock

12:20 am on Sunday, August 7, 2011

Am not a Vick Fan and certainly I do abhor Dog-Fighting,but one.s efforts would be far better utilised,fighting for longer prison sentences for these Evil Savages,and of course going after these Murderous Thugs like Hinklehooper of Denver,Mcguinty of Ontario who are Guilty of the Deaths of 1000,s upon 1000,s of Family-Pets.

Shanda Benson

6:38 pm on Saturday, August 6, 2011

This is a very tough question...I was abused as a child and I really understand the challenges of forgiveness vs forgetting! People can change but that doesn't always mean they have. Forgiveness is not the only issue.. it is trust and redemption. I personally would like to see Vick physically - supervised hands on working with and helping dogs damaged by fighting, abuse and neglect -- If he has changed it will break his heart and change him at a soul level - AND Financially funding (in a big way) the rescuing of these dogs that are tortured this way and prevention. IF he truly is repentant (???) then he needs to do more than get media coverage and perks! He needs to begin to repair, restore and prevent the damage caused by the kind of people he (was / is???). If he had to help heal these abused dogs (supervised of course) perhaps it would really get to his heart not just his head how wrong his behavior was. He can't just say it was wrong he must show that he IS changed -- You shall know them by their fruit! I do believe in change and transformation, but there must be evidence and much guidance in the process to validate it is real!!!

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Renda Luvaas

4:13 am on Monday, August 8, 2011

Shanda, Well said. I agree. Vick can talk all he wants but until I see true remorse and a attempt at redemption that hasn't been court ordered, He will be a lying ex-con pulling a con job on the America. Actions speak louder than words and so far Vick has been a dud . In my heart I know Vick will not let me down, He will show his true colors once again and all his supporters (who have hearts)
will be so surprised, shocked and disappointed in him once again. TIC TOCK VICK

K M

6:45 pm on Saturday, August 6, 2011

I guess to forgive is divine, you would have to ask yourself have you ever needed to be forgiven? And does your God say forgive, people forgive murders of people and children every day but here it is years later and you are still asking yourself does this man DESERVE YOUR FORGIVENESS...you may want to ask yourself does he care for your forgiveness. It probably matters more whether his family, his GOD and his people forgive him...who cares what the rest of the world thinks?

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KERBY norris

7:24 pm on Saturday, August 6, 2011

FOR CHRITS SAKE WHAT DOES THIS GUY MURDERING AND TORTURING ANIMALS HAVE TO DO WITH FORGIVING ??? FORGIVE YOUR MOM FORGIVE YOURSELF SOMETIMES BUT THIS IS NOT A CONVERSATION THAT IS JUSITFIED TAKE THE WORSHIP CHURCH MADE UP HOLEYNESS OUT F THIS . IF YOU WANT TO GO AND TALK TO THE GUY TO SO LEAVE US OUT OF IT . HE IS A DANGER TO SOCIETY THE RED NECKS AND STUPID SPORTS PEOPLE IT SHOWS WHAT THIS COUNTRY IS ABOUT SARA PALIN IKE TO SHOOT BABY WOLVES WITH A SHOT GUN THEY ARE ALL SICOS ALL THE WORKERS THAT PUT NEEDLES IN HEALTHY DOGS AND MURDER THEM CALLING IT HUMAN ,, WELL THERES TOO MANY PEOPLE HERE TOO SO LINE UP !!! WE ARE AN ABUSIVE CULTURE AS CHINA IS . LETS FACE IT WE ARE NOT GOD-LY AT ALL SO GO TO A CHURCH AND MAKE YOURSELVES FEEL BETTER DRIVE PAST A ANIMAL SHELTER THAT IS PURE EVEIL . ANY MONEY SHOULD BE USED TO BUILDING DEATH FREE SHELTERS AND PASSING REAL LAWS ABOUT ANIMAL CARE MAKING IT CRIMES TO BREED WAKE UP AMERICA YOUR NO SAINT

Lisa Ashley

6:52 pm on Saturday, August 6, 2011

It is NOT time to fogive: Vick NEVER paid his restitution - which was court ordered- to the dogs. He makes millions and still can't seem to send ANY money to the dogs at Best Friends Sanctuary. Also he has violated his parole by going to a party where his co-defendant was (this is against court order). Shot were fired there. NOTHING has changed! In addition he shows NO interested in how the dogs are doing. He threw his family dog into the pit and let it get killed while he stood there and watch. This "man" is a digrace to the human race. He should NOT be in the NFL and he should be mandated to follow his parole. If he can't he should go back to prison. We have not seen or heard the end of Vick's crimes, trust me. A sociopathy does NOT change!

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Sandie

7:00 pm on Saturday, August 6, 2011

Pople that sick do not change. He beat his pet dog to death with a shovel slammed the little red dog time and time again on the concrete floor shot them Hung them from trees never mind the laughing and joking while the poor animals were being mailed and ripped to shreds. Soul what soul people that wicked don't have soul's. I was sexualy physicaly and mentally abused from 2 years old don't give all that rubbish about repentance like the bible days an eye for an eye, I would destroy him like he destroyed those beautiful dogs .....Forgive!!!! not in this lifetime, you reap what you sow..!

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Philip

7:02 pm on Saturday, August 6, 2011

What I would like to know is what was Michael Vick feeling when he watched dogs fight. What was he feeling when he handled these dogs and what did he feel when he was party to the death and torture- some at his own hand? He actively took part in these acts. It isn't like he just fell in with a bad crowd and was present at a crime. He knew they were wrong otherwise they would not have been hidden. He lied and when caught all of a sudden he 'knows' his actions were wrong. I don't believe this for an instant. It is all about the money and to see this individual - I refuse to call him a human be give awards and paid obscene amounts of money is nauseating. But there is a God and one day Michael Vick will have to atone.

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Marie

7:05 pm on Saturday, August 6, 2011

It is past time!!! He has served his time and since everything he does is scrutinized, he has paid all fees and fines required. If he has not paid, it would be in the news.

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CeliaSueHecht writer

7:59 pm on Saturday, August 6, 2011

yes, because the media is not censored. That is why not many know what Vick really did. he did NOT get charged with dog fighting nor animal cruelty for KILLING DOGS in horrific ways with his own bare hands. He even threw his own pet dog Champagne into the wrong for the sadistic FUN/thrill of watching his dog GET HURT. Wake up ! Read the court documents.

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Janice Goad

12:53 pm on Sunday, August 14, 2011

Michael Vick's conviction was NOT for anything to do with the animals directly; it was for financially supporting a criminal enterprise. He has barely even acknowledged what he did, and then only in the most vague and laundered terms. But there is video of a reporter -- who just happened to have adopted one of the Vick dogs from Best Friends -- trying to ask him to comment on the dogs, telling him he'd adopted one of them and wouldn't he like to know how it was doing. The most telling thing in that whole video was (1) Vick's ability to COMPLETELY ignore the man and (2) a member of his entourage turning around and saying, very clearly, "We don't care about the dogs" -- which is exactly what Michael Vick's actions (as well as those of HSUS, the Eagles, Nike, Subway and BET) have been saying all along. You want to see how remorseful he is? Watch him give his speeches and you'll find that smirky little barely-suppressed smile on his face -- he's a thug who is running a con and if you think he's remorseful, that's why he's smiling!

Sandie

7:05 pm on Saturday, August 6, 2011

All I can say is thank god Im British because there is no way we would place sport before humanity and that's a fact the people of the UK wouldn't tolerate it.

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CeliaSueHecht writer

8:01 pm on Saturday, August 6, 2011

Serial killers have LONG histories of abusing animals. Vick started dog fighting when he was 8 years old and killed dogs for six years. Those who abuse animals also abuse people.

Vick DID NOT serve one minute of time for his crimes. He got off like Casey Anthony on a very minor charge. He was given a plea deal.

He was charged with: Conspiracy to Travel in Interstate Commerce in Aid of Unlawful Activities and to Sponsor a Dog in an Animal Fight Venture” - THAT is the charge that Vick did time for. the charge is basically "promoting gambling across state lines."

If he had been charged with animal cruelty according to Virginia law and if you read the court documents, he lied and failed the polygraph and he is still lying. If he had been charged with dog fighting, he would be in jail for 65 years. He has said "I'm SORRY I got caught" and wishes his sentence was shorter. He has shown NO remorse.

Forgiveness can be given to people who show REAL remorse BUT Vick, like all sociopaths, has no REAL remorse. He blames what he did on his friends, his background, NO ONE put a gun to his head for six years. NO ONE told him to kill, drown, electrocute, slam dogs to the ground like jump ropes, and the rest, HE DID IT.

He's done NOTHING since to make ME think he is truly sorry. It's just words scripted by his PR handlers.

People who are truly remorseful TELL THE TRUTH, MAKE AMENDS, and GO ABOVE and BEYOND, he has NOT.

Read the court docs and the Lost Dogs book.

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Michele Martinez

8:47 pm on Saturday, August 6, 2011

I’ve read Lost Dogs detailing his involvement and cannot stick my head in the sand about it. I work at a wildlife center and am all too familiar with euthanasia, however, I cannot help but wonder if God is ok with us taking the life of one of his creatures and we only do it when it is not possible to rehab the animal and it is the most humane option. I work with hunters and ranchers and although the hunters kill animals for sport, (they do eat their prey - for the record), and ranchers have to at times put an animal down, they would never do anything to harm an animal or torture them. Michael Vick did willingly torture and kill animals for years. Whether or not it is shouted from the rooftops is not the issue. The issue is only a certain type of person can do this to any living creature, someone missing something very fundamental. Vick supporters want to convince themselves because he’s been blessed with football talent, that is indicative of his character, make up and moral compass. One has nothing to do with the other. Jail doesn’t heal that. His soul will never find redemption. Martin Luther King Jr., said it best, "Never, never be afraid to do what's right, especially if the well-being of a person or animal is at stake. Society's punishments are small compared to the wounds we inflict on our soul when we look the other way." Martin Luther King Jr.

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shay hill

9:35 pm on Saturday, August 6, 2011

Vicks is not the only one who has abused dogs. He should be forgiven. This is what he saw growing up as a child in his neighborhood; he didn't know the seriousness of it. I like Dogs but there are children being abused and I don't recall this big of a reaction when a black child has been beaten or killed.

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Ellen

12:03 pm on Sunday, August 7, 2011

Really??!! Wow, I don't know how you can say that. Anyway, this article is about Vick and abused dogs, not abused children. He happens to be a huge public figure and someone that children look up to, so it would be a good thing if he realized the error of his ways and continue on a life of better judgements and positive acitivities.

Jo-claire

2:00 am on Sunday, August 7, 2011

Because as a child you witnessed something does not excuse your actions as an adult. He knew it was illegal and he's was never charged with animal cruelty by the commonwealth of virginia. Therefore he does not deserve to be walking on the streets amongst us.

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Ellen

11:59 am on Sunday, August 7, 2011

They nailed him on the bigger charges so he would serve the max time in jail. Sometimes, you have to compromise with the law to catch the bigger fish or serve the stiffer penalty. In the court orders, which are public info, it was decreed that he would never own another dog.

Kim Tonery

6:36 am on Sunday, August 7, 2011

Vick is only "sorry" he got caught. Someone who inflicts the level of torture as he has, sould never be allowed to own any animal ever again. This was not a one time thing, he did this for years @ a very high level, forget about that lame excuse to "blame it on his childhood" I have seen plenty of people who have had rough childhoods & don't go out doing what he did. I think he should have to pay alot more to buy/donate to shelters & to reform these dogs that are victims of "people" like him. I also think he should have to work with & see the worst victims (supervised) of course. I'm on the fence about him being able to play football, his salary should go to a good cause, not more drugs, toys etc.. But he should never be endorsed by any company ie...Nike, Subway, I will no longer purchase from these companies. Personally I could never forget/forgive him, for many reasons.. the most being he is not sorry for what he did, only that he got caught.

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Ellen

11:54 am on Sunday, August 7, 2011

Companies and networks are awarding and rewarding his ability on the football field, not his canine murdering and dogfighting ways. They feel that justice was served and he repaid his debt to society - per the law.

Just like every dog deserves a second, and sometimes third or fourth chance in life, people deserve second chances, too, if they've seriously learned a lesson and want to change for the better. If Vick wants to become a spokesperson about the evils of dogfighting, great! But, why does he feel the need to promote everything he does, like addressing Congress, instead of just going out and doing it? Maybe he still needs guidance in how to be a spokesperson.

I think a giant gesture toward good will would be to give the money back to the DDB folks who fund raised all the money thru our donations to purchase his house, which is now the Good Newz Kennels. What a great donation that would be for them to continue renovations and fencing. If he hasn't filled the dowry for any dogs remaining at Best Friends, that would be a good and positive thing to do, too. Actions always speak louder than words, Michael Vick.

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George Branson

4:27 pm on Sunday, August 7, 2011

Well, you have to take into account the "ick factor". For me, his actions broke my cultural taboos. Could you forgive someone for cannibalism or necrophilia? His actions fall into the same category, as something so creepy that there is just no reconciling with it.

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Sunni

7:45 am on Monday, August 8, 2011

"Take heed to yourselves. If your brother sins against you, rebuke him; and if he repents, forgive him." (Luke 17:3 NKJV) Learn to forgive, so that you may be forgiven. It's life; we all have made mistakes and done wrong to others, whether knowingly or unknowingly. But learning to forgive others for the wrong they've caused you and others, makes life so much more rewarding!

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James Bell

10:28 am on Monday, August 8, 2011

Mr. Zick did not commit a crime against me. He has paid his debt to society. I've seen people who have hurt others do less time in prison. Those of us who love dogs should spend more of our time trying to save the ones in our animal shelter from death. They kill 100s of animals there. Whose fault is that?

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Janice Goad

9:27 am on Monday, August 15, 2011

@KJ Garrett -- the key phrase is "if he repents", not "if he SAYS he repents and then doesn't even acknowledge what he's so-called repenting for". I could have forgiven MV a long time ago -- forgiven, but not forgotten -- if he'd only ACKNOWLEDGED what he did. I'm still waiting, and he can wait for my forgiveness, not that he gives a damn about that, either. And @James Bell, I was never abused or molested as a child, but when a child abuser or molester serves his time and can't wait to get back into society and do it again -- BECAUSE IT'S A SICKNESS -- I can't forgive that behavior, either. I think MV, along with his fellow abusers, has a sickness. That isn't his fault. How he deals with it is his choice, and that is as unforgiveable as the acts themselves. And if I spent any more time trying to save the shelter animals from death, I would find myself in a shelter. It's a full time job trying to clean up after the likes of MV and the rest of the uncaring society who consider pets something they can have when it's convenient. But once they're sick, or old, or got too big, or too much trouble -- well, time to drop them off at the shelter where "somebody" will surely give them a home. Yeah, keep telling yourselves THAT fairy tale, folks.

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Charles Branson

5:39 pm on Monday, August 15, 2011

Thanks Janice. Reminds me of last summer when I took my foot off the gas and avoided a turtle crossing the highway. A vehicle several car lengths behind me swerved almost off the road so he could run over it. Don't tell me he did nothing to me. "All creatures great and small." I think Coleridge understood it.

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Buttercup

6:25 pm on Tuesday, August 16, 2011

To me he's a football player that Plays for the Philadelphia eagles. I want him to win games. Not be a role model for my future offspring and he shouldn't have to be he's a football layer not a congressmen. Tell your kids right from wrong and they'll make their own decisions on whose a good role model or not

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